As postscript... The magic phrase that pays(googles) is "DOD crosscut shredder". 1/32" x 1/2" or 0.8mm x 13mm. Use in a well ventilated area, they tend to be very dusty, and keep it well oiled. The oil makes it last longer, less dusty, and makes the shreads light quicker :) - Adam L. "Duncan" Beberg http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/ beberg@mithral.com